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Dere Maister Chaucer:

Mesemeth that TNH of [livejournal.com profile] makinglight wolde ben a moste fyne drynkynge confrere (consoeur?) for thee. For when shee partoke of her neighboures vodka, shee fel into a moste straunge and lovelie tongue verray muche like unto thine. Povre wif.

Thine admirer,
Rym

In other [livejournal.com profile] makinglight news, if anyone with an interest in the subject hasn't seen the discussion of fanfic yet, and you have an hour or two at your disposal, go read. It's acquired 567 thoughtful and interesting comments so far. Basically, professional writers, fan writers, publishers, lawyers and interested onlookers of all stripes and varieties have shown up to debate the ethics of producing stories about other people's worlds. Some highlights:

  • Jane Yolen argues that works should be copyrighted long enough to earn money for the writers' heirs.
  • Mercedes Lackey admits to writing collaborative MMORPG fanfic.
  • Joss Whedon is, unsurprisingly, awesome.
  • A fanficcer named C.Elisa describes fanfic as "a form of full-contact literary criticism."
  • [livejournal.com profile] rhandir provides the Cliff Notes for the whole discussion.

I can't believe I just went back to find the good parts of that conversation instead of writing more of this thrice-damned paper.

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Date: 2006-04-30 04:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] muchabstracted.livejournal.com
Thrice damned!

Gosh, I'm commenty today.

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Date: 2006-04-30 07:55 am (UTC)
ext_27060: Sumer is icomen in; llude sing cucu! (Default)
From: [identity profile] rymenhild.livejournal.com
It hasn't achieved salvation yet.

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Date: 2006-04-30 04:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] muchabstracted.livejournal.com
...Wow. That's long. Thank you for posting the highlights.

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Date: 2006-04-30 07:55 am (UTC)
ext_27060: Sumer is icomen in; llude sing cucu! (Default)
From: [identity profile] rymenhild.livejournal.com
Novel-length, apparently.

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Date: 2006-04-30 04:46 am (UTC)
ext_36698: Photo of me with straightened hair, smiling (newhair)
From: [identity profile] ayelle.livejournal.com
(hours later)

hate. you.

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Date: 2006-04-30 07:59 am (UTC)
ext_27060: Sumer is icomen in; llude sing cucu! (Default)
From: [identity profile] rymenhild.livejournal.com
I should write "I am sorry for inflicting my procrastination material upon my unsuspecting friends" one hundred times upon the blackboard.

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Date: 2006-04-30 05:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-greythist387.livejournal.com
And! John M. Ford pretending to write in Welsh!

I keep Making Light in my Bloglines set but rarely find time to check anymore, so thanks much for the pointers.

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Date: 2006-04-30 08:00 am (UTC)
ext_27060: Sumer is icomen in; llude sing cucu! (Default)
From: [identity profile] rymenhild.livejournal.com
The only bits of Welsh I got were the words for God and Gatling-gun. Could you translate the rest of the pseudo-Welsh for our entertainment?

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Date: 2006-05-01 05:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-greythist387.livejournal.com
Not so much with the pretending, it turns out. My Welsh has never been good, so if anyone wants to correct me, feel especially free. Being from home, I leaned on this (http://www.geiriadur.net/) a fair bit--

Duw prid, gwraig, rydich waeth na y Gatling-gwn; rhifo i'n tri milwrau marw.

Something like, "Dear god, woman, you're worse than a Gatling-gun; I reckon that's three soldiers dead."

I think tentatively that he wanted "rydych" rather than "rydich."

("gwr" = L. "vir"; cf. "wifman", though not quite... and "gwr" is hiding in the "wr" of "milwr" (pl. milwrau), too)

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Date: 2006-05-01 05:24 am (UTC)
ext_27060: Sumer is icomen in; llude sing cucu! (Default)
From: [identity profile] rymenhild.livejournal.com
Hee! Thank you.

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Date: 2006-04-30 07:03 am (UTC)
ext_27667: (callisto squee)
From: [identity profile] viridian.livejournal.com
Oh my God.

I fucking love Joss Whedon.

(Like that wasn't obvious.)

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Date: 2006-04-30 08:00 am (UTC)
ext_27060: Sumer is icomen in; llude sing cucu! (Default)
From: [identity profile] rymenhild.livejournal.com
I admired him before, but that post just raised my respect for him by about 8.6 degrees.

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Date: 2006-04-30 10:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erstwhiletexan.livejournal.com
NelC, not only have I thought, for some years, of the New Testament as Old Testament fanfic, but Jesus is pretty clearly a Mary Sue.

This pretty much made me laugh tea all over myself. Thanks for posting!

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Date: 2006-04-30 11:22 pm (UTC)
ext_27060: Sumer is icomen in; llude sing cucu! (Default)
From: [identity profile] rymenhild.livejournal.com
You should see the text I'm currently reading. It's pretty much baby-Jesus-as-young-Superman.

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Date: 2006-04-30 06:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cataptromancer.livejournal.com
Middle English is having its best week ever!

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Date: 2006-04-30 11:21 pm (UTC)
ext_27060: Sumer is icomen in; llude sing cucu! (Default)
From: [identity profile] rymenhild.livejournal.com
Well, at least its best week in the last few hundred years.

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Date: 2006-05-01 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cataptromancer.livejournal.com
And wow, a blog so cool that nobody blinks an eye when chaucer himself appears in the comments...

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Date: 2006-05-01 09:18 pm (UTC)
ext_27060: Sumer is icomen in; llude sing cucu! (Default)
From: [identity profile] rymenhild.livejournal.com
They're unawed by writers living or dead, I think.

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Date: 2006-05-03 05:41 am (UTC)

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